It's always possible. But I'm not sure I have misjudged as much as you think.
[ Vincent won't deny he may get things wrong at least. His voice continues, offering a mild tone while further explaining. ]
Even people with every good intention can struggle like you're doing now.
Before you came here, you could have been a despot and tyrant. Or wanted to save everyone through rational and efficient methods. I'm only interested in knowing the answer to that up to a point. If I'm honest, I suspect something like the latter, though flexible isn't your strong point.
[ Someone else must have handled diplomacy. ]
You struggle to let go of that sense of control when you see something that doesn't fit the rules you think are best. You speak of ignoring rules that make little sense or are a 'detriment'. But that was a decision you made on your own more often than not.
Well, we all want respect and deserve it. But the level of expectations can be wildly different between people. You're also only mentioning questions asked of you. What about how you react to answers you receive? What do you do when you perceive something as disrespectful, detrimental, or foolish?
I know you asked the Admiral about the defenses and rally stations and were rejected before you put forth the suggestion. How much did you ask him to elaborate on how his reality works to compare with your research? Or was it the same as you gave me when I started questioning your suggestion and you immediately tried to close the conversation down? It only continued because I pursued you.
Those are not signs of equal respect or learning from one another, Thrawn. It's not present every time. But it's still more often than not. You're invested in teaching if it's your plan or your conclusions. But you balk a lot when a dissenting voice rises that you can't always reason away.
[He smiles, a little sadly. Someone did indeed handle diplomacy, as far back as Thrawn even neared the topic of politics]
It is not my place to question the Admiral's decision-making. I believe when he says no, he means it; attempting to circumvent his final decision will only result in a worse relationship going forward.
What do I do when I am disrespected? I suppose it would amount to the situation and consequences at hand. I am much more likely to ignore something when it does not result in loss of life of those I consider under my charge.
As I have no one, now, I suppose I will..move on, as it were, to other things. You and several other wardens have spoken that you would prefer I not aid in defense or weaponry. I will abandon any further pursuits unless asked directly.
There's nothing wrong with questions, even of the Admiral's motives or decisions. I can't speak for the other wardens. For me, it's that you're hard to trust. Hrmph. Well, that's the downside of seeking forgiveness over permission.
[ It really doesn't engender faith when subjects of weapons are what was actively pursued despite being denied. Not that Vincent doesn't recognize there are times when 'forgiveness' is the better option. ]
There's nothing wrong with your suggestions either. The knowledge you have is useful. Don't hold it back, even if it's not a good idea to try and reproduce it.
[ The last bit is spoken with dry humor. ]
Anyway, you seemed to learn something from this incident. I'll look forward to seeing what that means for your future.
[ ...Whether or not that earns back the trust lost or comes out to be more... interesting developments. ]
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[ Vincent won't deny he may get things wrong at least. His voice continues, offering a mild tone while further explaining. ]
Even people with every good intention can struggle like you're doing now.
Before you came here, you could have been a despot and tyrant. Or wanted to save everyone through rational and efficient methods. I'm only interested in knowing the answer to that up to a point. If I'm honest, I suspect something like the latter, though flexible isn't your strong point.
[ Someone else must have handled diplomacy. ]
You struggle to let go of that sense of control when you see something that doesn't fit the rules you think are best. You speak of ignoring rules that make little sense or are a 'detriment'. But that was a decision you made on your own more often than not.
Well, we all want respect and deserve it. But the level of expectations can be wildly different between people. You're also only mentioning questions asked of you. What about how you react to answers you receive? What do you do when you perceive something as disrespectful, detrimental, or foolish?
I know you asked the Admiral about the defenses and rally stations and were rejected before you put forth the suggestion. How much did you ask him to elaborate on how his reality works to compare with your research? Or was it the same as you gave me when I started questioning your suggestion and you immediately tried to close the conversation down? It only continued because I pursued you.
Those are not signs of equal respect or learning from one another, Thrawn. It's not present every time. But it's still more often than not. You're invested in teaching if it's your plan or your conclusions. But you balk a lot when a dissenting voice rises that you can't always reason away.
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It is not my place to question the Admiral's decision-making. I believe when he says no, he means it; attempting to circumvent his final decision will only result in a worse relationship going forward.
What do I do when I am disrespected? I suppose it would amount to the situation and consequences at hand. I am much more likely to ignore something when it does not result in loss of life of those I consider under my charge.
As I have no one, now, I suppose I will..move on, as it were, to other things. You and several other wardens have spoken that you would prefer I not aid in defense or weaponry. I will abandon any further pursuits unless asked directly.
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There's nothing wrong with questions, even of the Admiral's motives or decisions. I can't speak for the other wardens. For me, it's that you're hard to trust. Hrmph. Well, that's the downside of seeking forgiveness over permission.
[ It really doesn't engender faith when subjects of weapons are what was actively pursued despite being denied. Not that Vincent doesn't recognize there are times when 'forgiveness' is the better option. ]
There's nothing wrong with your suggestions either. The knowledge you have is useful. Don't hold it back, even if it's not a good idea to try and reproduce it.
[ The last bit is spoken with dry humor. ]
Anyway, you seemed to learn something from this incident. I'll look forward to seeing what that means for your future.
[ ...Whether or not that earns back the trust lost or comes out to be more... interesting developments. ]
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[a small gesture; hence, acting without permission. He has been biased against for so long that it's second nature to prove himself first]
Some will never trust me. I do not need it to graduate.
Indeed, Warden Valentine: I have learned much. Thank you for your insight.
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[ With that, he ends the call. ]